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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 93 19:50:13 PST
From: The Moderators <[e-mail]>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #234


Info-Mac Digest             Sun,  5 Dec 93       Volume 11 : Issue 234

Today's Topics:

      [!] Info-Mac III
      [*] cessna-simulation-0.3.hqx
      [*] comm - Anarchie 1.0.0
      [*] CreditsDisplay XFCN 1.0
      [*] Cyclone
      [*] Cyclone Beavis & Butt-head Sounds
      [*] DateCheck XFCN 1.0
      [*] dev/MercutioMDEF-115.sea
      [*] DialogDisplay XFCN 1.5
      [*] FileMaker Pro Demo
      [*] game - Morpion 1.0.0 (2 msgs)
      [*] IsMODPlaying XFCN 1.0
      [*] LaserWriter 8.1 Patch
      [*] MacTranslit_1_2.hqx
      [*] Mousebroken 1.0 (control panel)
      [*] Mousebroken 1.0 (source code)
      [*] PlayMOD Bundle
      [*] QTCheck XFCN 1.0
      [*] Re(ve)lations 1.05 database system
      [*] RenameRes XFCN 1.1
      [*] Simpsons Sounds - Group 8
      [*] SndVolume XFCN 1.0
      [*] SpeakText XFCN 1.0
      [*] src/pascal - Morpion 1.0.0
      [*] T_Dolby.sea.hqx
      [*] TattleTale.1.7.4
      [*] Threshold 1.0.0 for PowerBooks
      [*] touch-tone-decoder-11.hqx
      [*] VegieCard
      [*] VersionNumber XCMD 1.0
      [*] Virus Reference 2.1.2
      32-bit clean programming languages (R) (2 msgs)
      Advice on PC vs Mac networks
      ARA script for Ultima Home Office Modem (2 msgs)
      Choosing a monitor?
      cmd key, splat key, flower key, fan key...
      C Programming
      Creating BitMaps of Outline Fonts (How?) (2 msgs)
      Creator Change Tools
      Disk partitions
      Duo 210 Screen Contrast "locked"
      error in MasSlurp (Q)
      Faster LCII (2 msgs)
      French-English Dictionary
      Help reordering a Filemaker Pro database
      Icon Problems
      IIgs monitor on a Mac <?>
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #231
      Interleaved memory on 840av?
      internet news, email etc on the mac
      LineLink: problem with receiving FAX'es
      MacWrite dictionaries (2 msgs)
      MIDI on souped-up 512ke? (Q)
      MIDI on souped-up 512ke part II
      no icons?
      Offline NNTP newsreader (Q)
      OptiMem
      Performa 450 quality (A)
      Play Authoring Software (2 msgs)
      Postscript viewer. (2 msgs)
      Ram Disk on SE-30 with Sys 7. (2 msgs)
      RS-422 serial vs LocalTalk
      SndVolume XFCN 1.0
      SoundEditPro
      spin cd rom drive
      statics shell
      Sys 7.1 Boot Disk
      System 7 sound --> mod format
      TCP/IP networking problems with LC520?
      Text editor for large files (S)
      Toolbook
      Typing tutor
      UMICH:/mac/documentation/INITInfo4.3.1Word.sit
      UMICH:/mac/graphics/gif
      UMICH:/mac/misc/documentation/mactcppatch.cpt.hqx
      Upgrading a LC to use a SuperDrive
      Using BOTH ethernet and AppleTalk
      Warning: Apple Software Dispatch (extension problem)
      Watermarks
      Word books

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Date: 05 Dec 93 12:50:54 EST
From: Cliff Miller <[e-mail]>
Subject: [!] Info-Mac III

Dear Fans of the Info-Mac Archive,

The Info-Mac CD-ROM III is now in the works and with a bit of luck will be out
by January 1994.  (I realize that it's long overdue....)

The deadline for getting stuff on it is Dec 15.  Please upload directly to the
Info-Mac archive at sumex-aim by then if you'd like your program/files on the
CD.  PLEASE DO NOT try to send me your programs at my CompuServe account (it
will break).  I myself am going to be gone until about Dec 14, so
unfortunately I won't be able to answer any email till I get back.

As always, I appreciate your help and understanding!

Cliff

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 93 15:04:49 PST
From: [e-mail] (Sean Wakayama)
Subject: [*] cessna-simulation-0.3.hqx

Cessna Simulation is a flight simulator depicting dynamic motions of
the Cessna 172.  This is an engineering simulation solving 6 degree of
freedom aircraft motion.  Data recording abilities of the simulator
allow users to output flight data for plotting or analysis.

[Archived as /info-mac/sci/cessna-simulation-03.hqx; 138K]

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 17:30:28 +0800
From: Peter N Lewis <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] comm - Anarchie 1.0.0

Anarchie v1.0.0 is an archie client for the Mac.  It is (IMO) the easiest
way for users with MacTCP to fetch a file with a partially known
name from the anonymous FTP archives.  Simply choose an archie
server from the menu, tell it part of the name and have it return
a list of matches - then double-click one to have it automatically
downloaded to your Mac and if you have StuffIt Expander, it'll even
decode it for you!  And it works well with flaky archie servers or
FTP sites that won't let you in, since you can just pick another
server or host from the list.

And as an added bonus, its Apple Scriptable and Recordable, and
the scripting allows you to fetch and store files to/from FTP
sites, so you can automate all sorts of routine FTP tasks.  If you
have Frontier, it supports Menu Sharing as well (and comes with
a bunch of stuff from Leonard Rosenthol to get you started).

Anarchie requires System 7, MacTCP, and is $10 shareware.

Hope you like it,
   Peter. <[e-mail]>

Anarchie v1.0.0 Copyright 1993 Peter N Lewis

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/net/anarchie-100.hqx; 91K]

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Date: Fri Dec 3, 1993 09:48
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] CreditsDisplay XFCN 1.0

Attached you will find version 1.0 of our CreditsDisplay XFCN
for HyperCard.  CreditsDisplay allows developers of HyperCard
based products to incorporate colorful about screens for their
products.

Thank you,
Software Perspectives

[Archived as /info-mac/card/credit-display-10.hqx; 75K]

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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 93 18:38:39 -0800
From: "(Michael A. Kelly)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Cyclone

High Risk Ventures is proud to present our first shareware game!  Cyclone
features way-cool graphics and sound, and addicting and challenging game
play.  It's based on an old arcade game called Star Castle, in which you
fly a spaceship around on a wrap-around screen, and attack an enemy base
which sits in the middle of screen.  The base protects itself with three
rotating shield rings, heat-seeking mines, and a nasty plasma cannon.
We've added a few things to the original game, including weapons for your
ship, shields, bonus points, a challenge level, and more.  There's also
an 'original game' mode for those who want to play the game as it was
originally designed.

This is a commercial-quality game, offered as shareware with a $10
registration fee.  Call High Risk Ventures at [phone] or email
to [e-mail] for more information.

Enjoy!

Michael A. Kelly
High Risk Ventures

[Archived as /info-mac/game/arc/cyclone.hqx; 1222K]

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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 93 19:20:54 -0800
From: "(Michael A. Kelly)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Cyclone Beavis & Butt-head Sounds

Here are some Beavis & Butt-head sounds, intended for use with Cyclone,
the new shareware shoot-em-up from High Risk Ventures.  They could also
be used with Space Madness 1.1.3.

These sounds are intended to replace the defaults for most or all of
the non-game sounds, like the game over and high score sounds.

Enjoy!

Michael A. Kelly
High Risk Ventures

[Archived as /info-mac/game/arc/cyclone-bnb-sounds.hqx; 258K]

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Date: Fri Dec 3, 1993 09:48
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] DateCheck XFCN 1.0

Attached you will find version 1.0 of our DateCheck XFCN for
HyperCard.  This external allows you to check and see if
a particular date has passed.

Thank you,
Software Perspectives

[Archived as /info-mac/card/date-check-10.hqx; 29K]

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 21:47:18 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] dev/MercutioMDEF-115.sea

Mercutio 1.1.5 is a replacement for the standard menu definition routine
that supports menu item key equivalents with multiple-modifier keys. It
allows four combinations of modifier keys: command, command-option,
command-shift, and command-option-shift.

Mercutio is fully compatible with System 7, and supports all the features of
the system MDEF. Integrating the MDEF into your program is a very easy, and
shouldn't take more than 15 minutes. Mercutio's features include:

       - System 7's Balloon Help and True Gray.
       - Color menus.
       - Small and large icons.
       - SICNs in hierarchical menu items.
       - 99% compatible with standard MDEF: the
          only thing Mercutio doesn't do is support
          the "condense" and "extended" character styles.

MDEF Tester 1.4, a testing program, is also included in this package.

Developers may use Mercutio free of charge as long as they give me
credit and send me a copy of the final program. Other licensing terms are
available.


ABOUT THIS PACKAGE
===================
Changes since 1.1.4:
  - Fixed Key equivalent conflict for menu items with the same command-key
  - Fixed Key equivalent conflict for disabled menu items
  - Change of mailing address and e-mail accounts.


Ramon Felciano
[e-mail]
Digital Alchemy
December 1, 1993

Mercutio is copyright (c) 1992, 1993 by Ramon M. Felciano

[Archived as /info-mac/dev/mercutio-115.hqx; 91K]

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Date: Fri Dec 3, 1993 09:48
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] DialogDisplay XFCN 1.5

Attached you will find version 1.5 of our DialogDisplay XFCN
for HyperCard.  DialogDisplay allows you to display a dialog
window in your stacks.  Includes support for up to three
buttons and four strings of 32 character text.

Thank you,
Software Perspectives

[Archived as /info-mac/card/dialog-display-15.hqx; 38K]

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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 93 13:13:24 PST
From: [e-mail] (Harry Myhre)
Subject: [*] FileMaker Pro Demo

This is a "test drive" demo of Claris Corp. FileMaker Pro
downloaded from the MacWarehouse BBS. It is functional
enough to give you a good overview of FilMaker Pro.

[Archived as /info-mac/app/filemaker-pro-demo.hqx; 724K]

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 14:27:44 +0800
From: Peter N Lewis <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] game - Morpion 1.0.0

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Morpion v1.0.0 is a simple solitaire game, initially designed
by Henri Lamiraux.  I saw it on a friends Newton and decided to
write a Mac version (mostly to get out of watching some really
boring videos that were on at the time).
=20
The goal of Morpion is to draw as many horizonatal, vertical
or diagonal line segments as possible.   A segment can be drawn
by using five existing dots or by adding a fifth dot to four=20
existing dots.

Morpion requires System 6 or 7, and is free.

Hope you like it,
   Peter. <[e-mail]>

Morpion v1.0.0 Copyright 1993 Peter N Lewis=20

[Archived as /info-mac/game/arc/morpion-10.hqx; 25K]

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 14:27:44 +0800
From: Peter N Lewis <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] game - Morpion 1.0.0

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Morpion v1.0.0 is a simple solitaire game, initially designed
by Henri Lamiraux.  I saw it on a friends Newton and decided to
write a Mac version (mostly to get out of watching some really
boring videos that were on at the time).
=20
The goal of Morpion is to draw as many horizonatal, vertical
or diagonal line segments as possible.   A segment can be drawn
by using five existing dots or by adding a fifth dot to four=20
existing dots.

Morpion requires System 6 or 7, and is free.

Hope you like it,
   Peter. <[e-mail]>

Morpion v1.0.0 Copyright 1993 Peter N Lewis=20

[Archived as /info-mac/game/arc/morpion-10.hqx; 25K]

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Date: Fri Dec 3, 1993 09:48
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] IsMODPlaying XFCN 1.0

Attached you will find version 1.0 of our IsMODPlaying XFCN for
HyperCard.  IsMODPlaying allows you to check and see if a MOD
(SoundTrekker) file is playing.  It is for use with our PlayMOD
XFCN, version 1.1 or greater.  Users who do not have PlayMOD 1.1
should download the PlayMOD Bundle.

Thank you,
Software Perspectives

[Archived as /info-mac/card/is-mod-playing-10.hqx; 46K]

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 00:04:35 -0600 (CST)
From: Neil Eric Mickelson <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] LaserWriter 8.1 Patch

Hello again...

LaserWriter 8.1 Patch is a program that applies a few "hacks" to Apple's
LaserWriter 8.1 Driver, available from ftp.apple.com.  The "hacks"
include:

    - A Layout menu in the Print dialog box
    - Active SETUP button without having a printer selected
    - More "n-up" printing options (6,8,9, or 16 pages/sheet)

This patch was written with ResCompare, and is based on information from
LaserWriter Hacks, available as a text file from the infomac archives.

This patch is freeware; any comments can be sent to my e-mail address.
More complete documentation is included.

Use at your own risk...and remember to back up your driver, first!

ENJOY!

Neil E. Mickelson
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/prn/laserwriter-81-patch.hqx; 35K]

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 17:57:51 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Mikhail Fridberg)
Subject: [*] MacTranslit_1_2.hqx

A utility for converting between different writing systems of text. This
shareware ($25.00 US) version can convert among 3 different Cyrillic
systems - Apple Standard Cyrillic, Russian KOI-8 Alternative Variant system
and old Casady and Green unilingual Cyrillic system. More conversion tables
are available for registered users.
Required Sys 7. Drag and drop, baloon help, very fast and small.
Tested on variety of macintoshes, from Mac 512 to Centris 610. 32 bit
clean, virtual memory compatible.

Probably should go into /info-mac/text directory.

- Mike Fridberg
([e-mail])

[Archived as /info-mac/text/mac-translit-12.hqx; 53K]

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 05:28:15 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Mark Pilgrim)
Subject: [*] Mousebroken 1.0 (control panel)

Mousebroken is a control panel which will give you greater control over your
mouse (or less control, depending on how you look at it).  It comes with 13
mouse modules, each designed to alter your mouse's behavior in a different
way.  New mouse modules can easily be designed and added to Mousebroken.  The
mouse modules in this archive are public domain; source code and instructions
for designing your own modules will be uploaded in a separate archive.

This control panel is free and is distributed under the GNU General Public
License; complete C source code will be uploaded to the archive sites.  If
you do not have FTP access, e-mail the author for a copy of the control panel,
the source code, or a list of other programs by the same author.  The address
is [e-mail].

This control panel should work on any Macintosh, under either system 6 or 7.
Some individual mouse modules may have problems on systems with multiple
monitors.  Please report any bugs/comments/suggestions to [e-mail].

Mousebroken 1.0 is copyright 1993, Mark Pilgrim, MerriMac Software Group.

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/mouse-broken-10.hqx; 57K]

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 05:29:34 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Mark Pilgrim)
Subject: [*] Mousebroken 1.0 (source code)

Mousebroken is a control panel which will give you greater control over your
mouse (or less control, depending on how you look at it).  It comes with 13
mouse modules, each designed to alter your mouse's behavior in a different
way.  New mouse modules can easily be designed and added to Mousebroken.  The
mouse modules in this archive are public domain; feel free to design your
own!

The Mousebroken control panel is free and is distributed under the GNU
General Public License.  This archive contains complete THINK C 6.0.1 source
code and project files for the control panel.  This archive also contains
source code to 13 sample mouse modules and a blank module prototype (quite
well commented, too); these modules are public domain.  If you do not have FTP
access, e-mail the author for a copy of the control panel, the source code, or
a list of other programs by the same author.  The address is [e-mail].

This control panel should work on any Macintosh, under either system 6 or 7.
Some individual mouse modules may have problems on systems with multiple
monitors.  Please report any bugs/comments/suggestions to [e-mail].

This code demonstrates the in's and out's of writing a control panel,
advanced file maintenance, INIT installation, preference file maintenance,
notification through the Notification Manager, VBL installation and removal,
and lots and lots of mucking about with undocumented low-memory globals.

Mousebroken 1.0 is copyright 1993, Mark Pilgrim, MerriMac Software Group.

[Archived as /info-mac/dev/src/mouse-broken-10-c.hqx; 203K]

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Date: Fri Dec 3, 1993 09:48
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] PlayMOD Bundle

Attached you will find our PlayMOD Bundle, which contains
PlayMOD XFCN 1.1 and IsMODPlaying XFCN 1.0.  PlayMOD allows
you to play SoundTrekker (MOD) files from within HyperCard.
IsMODPlaying, when used with PlayMOD allows you to monitor
a MOD file and check if it is playing.

Thank you,
Software Perspectives

[Archived as /info-mac/card/play-mod-bundle.hqx; 101K]

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Date: Fri Dec 3, 1993 09:48
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] QTCheck XFCN 1.0

Attached you will find version 1.0 of our QTCheck XFCN for
HyperCard.  This external allows you to check and see if
QuickTime is installed.

Thank you,
Software Perspectives

[Archived as /info-mac/card/qt-check-10.hqx; 28K]

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 10:37:23 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Michael Bjorn)
Subject: [*] Re(ve)lations 1.05 database system

What is Re(ve)lations?
A very simple - but VERY EASY TO USE - relational database system.

Features:
-> A basic set of relational algebra operations, which can be nested to
   produce complex queries.

-> A graphical query language specially developed for Re(ve)lations. No
   support for character-based queries (e.g. queries in SQL format) - and good
   riddance to them!

-> Data import and export in tab-delimited format.

-> Access to multiple databases at the same time.

-> Multi-user architecture.

Re(ve)lations version 1.05 may be included on the info-mac CD-ROM or on any
other non-profit CD-ROM.

Michael Bjorn
University of Tsukuba, JAPAN
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/app/revelations-105.hqx; 478K]

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Date: Fri Dec 3, 1993 09:48
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] RenameRes XFCN 1.1

Attached you will find version 1.1 of our RenameRes XFCN for
HyperCard.  This external function allows you to rename resources
within any file from HyperCard.

Thank you,
Software Perspectives

[Archived as /info-mac/card/rename-res-11.hqx; 22K]

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 20:45:09 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] Simpsons Sounds - Group 8

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In my continuing quest to overrun every Mac in America with Simpsons sound
bites, here is group 8, consisting of 11 samples, all but one from this
season. Contained are:

   1) Homer "That's right!"
   2) Homer "Your point being?"
   3) Marge "Your point being?"
   4) Otto "Whoa, that bites!"
   5) Patty "Holy crap!"
   6) Ramones "I'd just like to say this gig sucks!"
   7) Ramones "Hey, up yours Springfield!"
   8) Ramones "Go to hell you old bastard"
   9) Willy "Ehhhgh! Back to the loch with you Nessie!"
    (uttered after viewing Selma's video dating tape)
   10) Desert Diner Employees
        "I hate it when the waffles stick together!"
        "Sticking together's what good waffles do!"
   11) And finally, the Simpsons' finest/worst moment:
        the entire "Sideshow Bob & the Rakes" scene.
        Nine whacks. Eight too many? You decide.

As usual, sfil format, recorded at 11KHz. The number-letter-number-number
combo in brackets in each title is the production code of the episode from
which it came. nJOY!

"I just want attention."
Michael J. Fulmer
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/snd/simpsons-grp8.hqx; 609K]

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Date: Fri Dec 3, 1993 09:48
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] SndVolume XFCN 1.0

Attached you will find version 1.0 of our SndVolume XFCN for
HyperCard.  This external allows you to set and retrieve the
sound volume of the Macintosh.

Thank you,
Software Perspectives

[Archived as /info-mac/card/snd-volume-10.hqx; 44K]

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Date: Fri Dec 3, 1993 09:48
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] SpeakText XFCN 1.0

Attached you will find version 1.0 of our SpeakText XFCN for
HyperCard.  SpeakText allows you to utilize Apple's Speech
Manager and PlainTalk TTS.  SpeakText includes features for
rate, pitch and voice and does not contain any limits for
the length of text to be spoken.

Thank you,
Software Perspectives

[Archived as /info-mac/card/speak-text-10.hqx; 46K]

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 17:30:00 +0800
From: Peter N Lewis <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] src/pascal - Morpion 1.0.0

This is the Pascal source code for Morpion v1.0.0, a simple
solitaire game, initially designed by Henri Lamiraux.

The source code contains lots of interesting stuff:

Demonstrates the usefulness of building library routines (only
    three of the included source files are particular to Morpion).
Support for the core AppleEvents
Support for FMenus which make you menu locations independent
    of the code that implements them.
Supports for the TextToSpeech Manager.
Demonstrates OO techniques for implementing windows as objects.
Code for reading your own Version resource.
And lots of useful general purpose routines.

You can use this source code for any non-commercial purpose.

Hope it is useful to someone,
   Peter. <[e-mail]>

Morpion v1.0.0 Copyright 1993 Peter N Lewis

[Archived as /info-mac/dev/src/morpion-100-p.hqx; 55K]

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 93 1:02:36 PST
From: [e-mail] (Simon Higgs)
Subject: [*] T_Dolby.sea.hqx

"This QuickTime movie is footage of the last few moments of Thomas Dolby's set
at the Electronic Cafe in Santa Monica on 11/18/93, as part of an Interactive
TV Demo to demonstrate multi-site interactive performances.

This was a live simultaneous event that ran not only at the Electronic Cafe in
Santa Monica, but also at the Lodge in the Viacom building in New York, with
interactive participation from Viacom, MTV, Nickolodeon, MTV Latino, and MTV
Europe. Video conferencing equipment was on hand to enable guests at each site
to talk and interact with each other.

In the not-to-distant future, the bandwidth and technology will exist to
enable
two-way video between your home and the global community. What will you do
with
it?"

Thanks,

Simon Higgs =->

[Archived as /info-mac/grf/qt/thomas-dolby-93-11-18.hqx; 1005K]

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 00:06:57 -0700 (MST)
From: "John G. Mancino" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] TattleTale.1.7.4

RE:  TattleTale 1.7.4
     Locate in Configuration/

REQUIRES:
Mac+ or >
System 6.4 or >, Compact Pro to decompress

DESCRIPTION:
TattleTale is a system snooper and bug reporter application.
The reports are particularly thorough under System 7.

1.7.4 UPDATE = Fixed bugs with Total In Use hours, disk
capacity for disks over 2 gigabytes, other minor bug fixes.

TattleTale Reports over 450 items of information specifically
related to your system including the following Hardware+Software
 categories: General CPU/Hardware attributes; Volumes/Drives;
Monitors; Nubus/PDS, ADB, SCSI devices (incl Manufacturer,ROM
revisions,etc); Traps ; Application versions; DAs, Fonts, INITs,
CDEVs, etc; Also Mount volumes; Close files; Send Standard+Bug
reports to Screen, Printer or file. Balloon Help. Ref: MacWEEK
9/10/91, MacUser Shareware Awards 9/92

[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/tattle-tale-174.hqx; 262K]

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Date: 03 Dec 1993 13:44:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Jeremy Kezer, [phone]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Threshold 1.0.0 for PowerBooks

Keywords:  POWERBOOK VST THINPACK TECHNOGGIN POWERPLATE BATTERY WARNINGS

Threshold 1.0.0 for PowerBooks (by Jeremy Kezer)

As we PowerBook owners all know, the PowerBook is smart enough to warn
you when your battery is getting low.  Unfortunately, these warnings can be
conservative, especially with external batteries.

Threshold changes all that!  With Threshold, you can adjust the voltages
at which the warnings occur.  This allows you to alter the warnings so that
they come up later than usual, giving you more productive battery time.
In addition to the default Apple warnings, you can program up to three
custom warning sets.

Threshold sports a concise graphical display.  It shows an analog graph
representing current battery voltage, with the current warning points
illustrated.  There is also a battery status indicator, an elapsed timer,
and a sleep button.  You can also easily adjust the warning thresholds
via up & down arrows.

Shareware; $10 registration fee will activate all features.  See enclosed
docs for more information.

author:  Jeremy Kezer
     143 Songbird Lane
     Farmington, CT  06032-3433 USA
     Email:  [e-mail] or JBKezer on America Online

[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/threshold-100.hqx; 118K]

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 14:41:22 -0500
From: gsmattes <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] touch-tone-decoder-11.hqx

     Touch Tone Decoder 1.1 allows you to determine which, if any, touch
tones are in a sound file.  It also recognizes rings, busy signals, and
the dial tone.
     It supports direct recodring and the importation of AIF files.  The
friendly and pretty interface allows playback and analysis of portions
of the sample, as well as the ability to save and print the results of
the analysis.  It is amazingly fast and accurate.  Overall, it's a very
neat hack.
     This is a full-featured version, except that it will not acknowledge
three touch tones (randomly chosen each launch).  To get the uncrippled
version, you must register by sending the author a (reasonable)
shareware fee.
     It requires System 7.0 or higher, and a sound input device.

[Archived as /info-mac/snd/util/touch-tone-decoder-11.hqx; 107K]

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 11:45:44 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael M Eilers <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] VegieCard

Enclosed is a HyperCard 2.1 stack that's a little old, but was recently
posted on AOL (where I grabbed it) and is probably one of the slickest,
most intuitive and crsiply-designed stacks I have seen. I am re-submitting
it because the final version never made it to the 'net. The stack deals
with the subject of vegitarianism and vegan eating habits, covering
everything from political/economic arguments against eating meat to a
60-recipie cookbook full of amazing food. Now if you have a sarcastic
sneer on your face, wipe it off--this stack hits hard and swiftly, and
will make the most bloodthirsty carnivore think twice before his or her
next meal of flesh. Personally, i'd like to drop this stack in every
mailbox on the 'net, but for now i reccomend it for anyone interested in
health issues, enviroscience, agriculture, or well-executed hypercard
design! I'm not the author, but carnivors can flame me if they want.
Thanks for your time.

"Eggs are MEAT!"--Lauren my vegan friend.

Michael Eilers
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/info/nms/vegie-card-hc.hqx; 580K]

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Date: Fri Dec 3, 1993 09:48
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] VersionNumber XCMD 1.0

Attached you will find version 1.0 of our VersionNumber XCMD for
HyperCard.  VersionNumber allows you to retrieve the information
contained in a 'vers' resource of ID 1.

Thank you,
Software Perspectives

[Archived as /info-mac/card/version-number-10.hqx; 45K]

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Date: Fri Dec 3, 1993 09:48
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] Virus Reference 2.1.2

Attached you will find our free utility, Virus Reference.
Virus Reference is an online guide to Mac viruses and trojan
horses.  It includes complete details on symptoms and includes
search capabilities.  This update adds information on the
CODE-1 and MBDF-B viruses discovered Nov. 4, 1993.

Thank you,
Software Perspectives

[Archived as /info-mac/vir/virus-reference-212.hqx; 51K]

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Date: 3 Dec 1993 10:02:41 -0800
From: "Sandro Menzel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: 32-bit clean programming languages (R)

> However, I'm finding it surprisingly difficult to find a programming
> language/development system to use.  I first thought of Prolog, but the
> Prolog for the Mac I have access to (LPA Prolog) is not 32-bit clean.
> Then I tried Microsoft Basic; also not 32-bit clean.  ... And preferably
> nothing too expensive, as it comes out of my own pocket. Any
> recommendations?

You might consider FutureBasic by Zedcor. They've got the current
BASIC product of choice these days.

Rumor has it that they're running some kind of special right now.
Sorry but I don't know any details.


Sandro

<[e-mail]>
Network Administrator  -  Media Technologies, Inc.  -  Bothell, WA

------------------------------

Date: 3 Dec 1993 10:02:41 -0800
From: "Sandro Menzel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: 32-bit clean programming languages (R)

> However, I'm finding it surprisingly difficult to find a programming
> language/development system to use.  I first thought of Prolog, but the
> Prolog for the Mac I have access to (LPA Prolog) is not 32-bit clean.
> Then I tried Microsoft Basic; also not 32-bit clean.  ... And preferably
> nothing too expensive, as it comes out of my own pocket. Any
> recommendations?

You might consider FutureBasic by Zedcor. They've got the current
BASIC product of choice these days.

Rumor has it that they're running some kind of special right now.
Sorry but I don't know any details.


Sandro

<[e-mail]>
Network Administrator  -  Media Technologies, Inc.  -  Bothell, WA

------------------------------

Date: 04 Dec 1993 10:29:41 -0600 (CST)
From: Chip Eckardt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Advice on PC vs Mac networks

We are looking at converting 375 Unisys B-20s that are on 40 LANs to PCs
running WIndows and using Novell for the file servers.

Questions--
Do any of you out there have hard facts on the costs of administering
Windows/Novell vs Macs with AppleShare or have gone through this kind of
conversion?

What I am looking at is costs associated with building new
networks/servers, time to add users, setup printers, route to Internet,
mainframe data comm, multi-user databases, group calenders, e-mail, wp,
custom programming, etc.
Hopefully most of our programs can be converted to a 4GL (FoxPro,4th
Dimension,Oracle, etc. and very little would have to be done in C, Pascal,
etc.)

Right now 4 of us administer our existing Unisys B-20 (CTOS) proprietary
networks.  That includes setting up user accounts, program development,
training, hotline support, hardware repair, and designing-installing new
networks.  From everything I have seen we will need at least 6 people to do
the same thing in the Windows/Novell area.

If any of you can give me information or point me in the right direction it
would be appreciated.
-Chip- Coordinator Office Automation University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 3 Dec 93 12:53:41 EST
From: "Sid B. Bernstein" (AED-EWD) <[e-mail]>
Subject: ARA script for Ultima Home Office Modem

    Hi,

    Does anybody have a working script for the Ultima Home Office modem?
We can't get a few of them working properly.

                    Thanx,
                    Sid Bernstein
                    [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 93 12:53:41 EST
From: "Sid B. Bernstein" (AED-EWD) <[e-mail]>
Subject: ARA script for Ultima Home Office Modem

    Hi,

    Does anybody have a working script for the Ultima Home Office modem?
We can't get a few of them working properly.

                    Thanx,
                    Sid Bernstein
                    [e-mail]

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Date: Sat,  4 Dec 1993 15:18:54 -0500 (EST)
From: "Michael R. Lutz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Choosing a monitor?

I was looking to get a multisync monitor for my new Quadra 800.  I am
looking for a 14" or 15" monitor.  I have heard that both the CPD-1430
>From Sony and the 4FGe from NEC are good monitors.  Are there any other
good ones?  Which one is better?

Thanks,
Mike

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 22:00:10 -0800
From: [e-mail] (scott mclagan)
Subject: cmd key, splat key, flower key, fan key...

Darn it, could someone please remind me how to create the cmd-key
character in the Chicago font.

(This is a perfect example of those times when you foolishly say to
yourself "I don't need to write this down - it's easy to remember...)

Thanks,
Scott McLagan <[e-mail]>
Coordinator for Computers, School District #43 (Coquitlam), B. C., Canada

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 04 Dec 93 19:17:42 EST
From: Richard Caccavale <[e-mail]>
Subject: C Programming

I am hoping to teach myself some simple programming on the
Macintosh.  Can someone recommend some good books on
programming in Think C and C++.  Also, what volumes of Inside the
Macintosh are most important.  I haven't programmed since I got rid
of my Commodore 64 and have only had experience with Basic,
Pascal, FORTRAN (on old IBMs and TRS 80s) and Assembly on the
Commodore.  Needless to say, its been a long time and I need to start
at the beginning.  Please send all responses to me directly.  Thank
you in advance.

Richard Caccavale    [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 16:32:24 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Matthew Ahrens)
Subject: Creating BitMaps of Outline Fonts (How?)

I use a utility caled BitFont to creat bitmap of PS and TT fonts. works fine
+ under sys 7.1. I might be able to try to mail it to you if you can't find
it.

--
My opinions are mine only and tentative, pending further data
Matthew Ahrens                      [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 16:32:24 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Matthew Ahrens)
Subject: Creating BitMaps of Outline Fonts (How?)

I use a utility caled BitFont to creat bitmap of PS and TT fonts. works fine
+ under sys 7.1. I might be able to try to mail it to you if you can't find
it.

--
My opinions are mine only and tentative, pending further data
Matthew Ahrens                      [e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 16:25:46 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Herb Kroemer)
Subject: Creator Change Tools

I have been using "Get More Info" to quickly display (and change) Creators
for selected individual TEXT files. You simply select the file, press
Shift-Option-I, and a dialog box pops up, to let you do your thing. Very
fast and very convenient, but unfortunately, it doesn't work under System
7, at least not on my PB 180, which runs 7.1. Does anybody know of a
similarly simple tool that works under 7.1? No drag-and-drops, please; I
got several of those, and they are all FAR less convenient than "Get More
Info."

Regards, Herb K.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 23:42:26 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Disk partitions

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> 1. Does the newest version of Apple's HD formatter allow hard partitions?

I believe not, but Fabrizzio Oddone (sp?) just posted a utility that
does this - I think it's called Setup Partitions.

> 2. What is the maximum partition size that I can have before I start
> get large disk allocations from small files? (80 MB)

The algorithm is 512 bytes per 32 MB partition size. As the partition
grows by 32 MB, the block size grows by 512 bytes. So, on my 700+
MB partition, a block is 11K in size. Figure out the best choice for
your purposes.

> 3. I usually use Silverlining. However, I hear that the newer Quadras
> use direct DMA which Silverlining does not support. Is this true?

This is true, and the latest version of SL is 5.5 or something in
the 5.5x range. However, according to La Cie, application support
is required as well, and no applications currently support asynch
reads and writes. That's hearsay and may be nonsense - I'm not knowledgeable
enough to say for sure. I use Silverlining 5.5 on my 660AV with no
problems.

cheers ... -Adam

Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
Author of The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh -- [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 23:38:04 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Paul Kleeberg)
Subject: Duo 210 Screen Contrast "locked"

I have a PB Duo 210 and have had very good luck with it.  Today however I
noticed that I was no longer able to adjust the contrast of the screen.
Restarting without extensions and resetting parameter RAM had no effect.
Anyone seen this before?  Luckily it is locked in place at a comfortable
level.

Paul Kleeberg
[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 12:27:06 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Li-Hsiang Tu)
Subject: error in MasSlurp (Q)

I was trying MacSlurp to read news offline.  The third day that I was using
it, I got a error message.  I was able to download news before.

do_newsnews: NNTP protocal error: got 'NEWNEWS
... (the list of groups subscribed)

Does anyone have a similar problem?

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 11:57:50 -0700 (MST)
From: Robin Machado <[e-mail]>
Subject: Faster LCII

I have an LCII 4/40 at work and we run programs like Excel 4.0 and Word 5.  It
has always been something of a dog with these programs.  I was wondering if
installing the 475 upgrade would make it run faster or should I explore an
excelorator board of some kind?  I've had a couple of MAC technicians look
at the machine and they can't find anything wrong.  Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.

Robin

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 11:57:50 -0700 (MST)
From: Robin Machado <[e-mail]>
Subject: Faster LCII

I have an LCII 4/40 at work and we run programs like Excel 4.0 and Word 5.  It
has always been something of a dog with these programs.  I was wondering if
installing the 475 upgrade would make it run faster or should I explore an
excelorator board of some kind?  I've had a couple of MAC technicians look
at the machine and they can't find anything wrong.  Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.

Robin

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 12:17:25 EST
From: [e-mail] (Prof. L.G. Leduc)
Subject: French-English Dictionary

Some people have asked me to post the replies that I received about the
French-English dictionary for the Mac. Unfortunately, I only received one
reply - here it is:


I have read ads for, but have not used, a product called "Key Into
French," which is an English-French, French-English disctionary for
the Mac. It costs $49 from Exceller Software Corp., 2 Graham Road
West, Ithaca, NY 14850. Tel. [phone].


Cheers.

Leo G. Leduc
CANADA

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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 13:20:34 +0800
From: [e-mail] (Brian Gordon)
Subject: Help reordering a Filemaker Pro database

I've only owned Filemaker Pro (Mac) for 2 days, and have spent much of that
time in RTFM mode, but don't see a solution to this common problem:
1) Create a database with fields A, B, C, X, Y, Z
2) Enter a bunch of data
3) Discover you need field D, and want it to appear between C and X

Their instructions ofr reodering a database (by specifying custom order)
changes
the order of the fields when it lists them, but does not affect the data at
all.
I'd be happy to copy this DB to another one, for exanple, to get the
reordering
done, but don't see anything on doing that.  Can someone either tell me how to
do it, or at least point me the the right part of the "FM"?

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 10:00:20 EST
From: "Jeffrey N. Fritz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Icon Problems

Adam C. Engst writes:
AE> I have a similar problem, although it's not all my icons - just the
AE> ones on the desktop and some in the Apple Menu. And, even stranger,
AE> it's only document icons on the desktop - apps are fine. I've done
AE> all of the same stuff, and the only thing remaining is a reformat
AE> of the entire hard disk unless anyone can suggest any other routes.

This may not be the same thing, but I recently got zapped big time
by installing the new version of Access PC (3.0) on my Quadra 700.  I
did the instructions per Hoyle (no extensions running).  After
rebooting all my icons (well most of them anyway) turned to generic
document toast.

Rebooting with option-command didn't help.  Using Desktop Reset
(usually very reliable) didn't help either.  I had to use RedEdit
to manually change all the desktop database files for each partition
to visible and then manually trash them.  That did it.

Foo on you Insigna!  :-(

(To be a mite fair, I did the installation of Access PC right after
installing the new version MacLink.  However, rebooting after installing
MacLink didn't seem to cause the problem.  I don't feel like testing
this again to see which one was really the cause.  I have six disk
partitions!)

Jeffrey Fritz
[e-mail]
West Virginia University

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1993 16:28:42 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mark Dohm, UW-P Information Technology" <[e-mail]>
Subject: IIgs monitor on a Mac <?>

Will the Apple IIgs standard RGB monitor and/or keyboard work with any
Macintosh
models.  If so, what is required?

I am looking into purchasing a Mac and thought why not use some of the
equipment
that I currently own if possible.  I realize it isn't an ideal situation, but
I
could stick my money into the box and get me by until I can afford a 17"
monitor,
etc.

Any thoughts would be appreciated (even a flat out NO IT CAN'T BE DONE).
Please
respond to me directly, since I am not a member of this list.

Brook Swenson
[e-mail]

=======================  End of forwarded message.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 01:44:44 -0600 (CST)
From: Daniel Pollock <[e-mail]>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #231

I am looking for a currency converter does anybody k know where I can find
one through ftp is there one in the sumex archives?  Please let me know
[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 15:30:44 EST
From: Bob Crawford <[e-mail]>
Subject: Interleaved memory on 840av?

Can anyone confirm whether the Quadra 840av has interleaved
memory (as does the 800)?  I would guess yes, but cannot find a
spec.
Thanks.
Bob Crawford

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 05 Dec 93 16:07:28 GMT
From: Donald Peterson <[e-mail]>
Subject: internet news, email etc on the mac

For reading and sending news and email (which I do a lot), I have been using
a Mac with a terminal emulator connected through to a Unix network on which
I use trn (threaded news reder), Postnews (for posting news), and MH (for
sending, receiving and filtering email). I also use ftp, gopher, archie, and
now mosaic for the WWW.

I now have to decide whether to move to the X-based versions of these Unix
programs, and use MacX on the Mac, or to move to Mac-based products.  Can
anyone recommend Mac-based products (shareware or commercial) which do a
good job of supporting these communications? (I recently saw Fetch, the Mac
ftp client, and this is what inspired me, since it is so good.) It would be
nice to have an integrated system rather than different programs for each
type of comms.

I have MacTCP running.

Thanks in advance,

Donald.

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 15:25:09 -0500
From: [e-mail] (William Edwards)
Subject: LineLink: problem with receiving FAX'es

I still cannot get MaxFax to receive a FAX that I send to it.  The
Linelink is hooked up to a Classic II running System 7.1, and I am
trying to send from a Global Village Teleport 2400 baud data/9600 baud
send FAX modem connected to a Powerbook 100 also running System 7.1.
I have been able to get the Linelink to auto-answer at 2400 baud with
Versaterm.  I also can send FAX'es and dial into work with the
Linelink.  My theory about the receive problem is that it is not
matching baud rate properly, since it tries several times to connect,
and drops the line.  I get an empty (spurious) FAX, and the Maxfax
info button reports a connection at 2400 baud (!!!).  Any ideas?
Please respond by email and I will summarize.
-- Bill Edwards
   Dana Farber Cancer Institute/ECOG
   303 Boylston Street; Brookline MA 02146
  [phone]; [e-mail]; [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 11:28:20 PST
From: "EDWIN HORNEIJ"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacWrite dictionaries

On AOL I read what I assume is an official statement from Claris
that they have no plans to produce additional foreign-languages
dictionaries. I want to go ahead and make a Portuguese
user-defined dictionary on my own and just lock it in the Finder
once I'm done. My problem is that it is not possible to have no main
dictionary installed in MacWrite. One thought that occurred to me is
to create an empty user dictionary and fool around with ResEdit to
make it a main dictionary type document, so that I could install
that and then use my Portuguese user-defined dictionary. However, I
have no idea if this is even possible, let alone how to go about it.
Could someone lend me a hand?


Ed Horneij
<[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 11:28:20 PST
From: "EDWIN HORNEIJ"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacWrite dictionaries

On AOL I read what I assume is an official statement from Claris
that they have no plans to produce additional foreign-languages
dictionaries. I want to go ahead and make a Portuguese
user-defined dictionary on my own and just lock it in the Finder
once I'm done. My problem is that it is not possible to have no main
dictionary installed in MacWrite. One thought that occurred to me is
to create an empty user dictionary and fool around with ResEdit to
make it a main dictionary type document, so that I could install
that and then use my Portuguese user-defined dictionary. However, I
have no idea if this is even possible, let alone how to go about it.
Could someone lend me a hand?


Ed Horneij
<[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: 04 Dec 1993 14:36:10 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: MIDI on souped-up 512ke? (Q)

MIDI gurus-

I am trying to coax my upgraded 512ke (to a 4-meg plus) to control the new
Yamaha Hello Music! (CBX-T3) general MIDI device.  This has a built-in MIDI
interface, so all you have to do is connect to the serial port of your Mac.
The only problem is I have the old DB-9 serial ports.

Will I be able to "do MIDI" on my machine?  I have tried using my printer
cable (it is to an ImageWriter II so it has the MINI DIN 8-PIN) to no avail.
Do I simply need a different cable?  Does the fact that I am missing pin #7
(the GP i) matter?

I'd be happy to receive any info from MIDI users in the know, particularly any
who are successfully connecting MIDI equipment to their machines.

-Christopher Van Dyke
Hohokam Middle School
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 04 Dec 1993 21:02:14 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: MIDI on souped-up 512ke part II

I was having a problem with my new MIDI setup because I have an original Mac
upgraded to a 4-meg Plus though it still has the original DB-9 serial ports.
I was told that all I need is a DB-9M/Din-8F Adapter for the serial cable
shipped with my new Yamaha tone generator.

I have an additional problem, however.  Try as I might the MIDI manager and
Patchbay will not work under system 7.1 on my machine.  Even if I disable
absolutely everything (extensions, control panels, fonts, etc.) I get a
message stating that the driver did not load and to quit and disable
applications and extensions.  Everything works fine under system 6.08.
Shouldn't I be able to load the MIDI driver on my 4-meg machine?

Thanks for all who are helping keep my antiquated gear going.  I figure I'll
make it to the decade mark (from '85-'95) before I replace my trusty old Mac
with a new one.  Until then...

-Christopher Van Dyke
Hohokam Middle School
[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 09:00:47 MST
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan Lundell)
Subject: no icons?

> We have a PowerBook Duo 230 with a strange problem:  all of the file icons
> are of the "blank" application or document type. I have re-installed the
> System (including System Update 2.0.1 and NSI 1.4.1), re-installed all of
> our locally used extensions (Macintosh Easy Open & PC Exchange, ATM, etc.),
> run Norton Disk Doctor, Disinfectant, and Disk First Aid (the latter
> reported Catalog BTree problems which it said it fixed) and re-built the
> desktop after each operation, and *still* the icons are blank.

Before reformatting, I'd try *deleting* the desktop file with TechTool or
the like, or with ResEdit (with ResEdit, I imagine, you could rename it,
make it visible, and trash it). Then restart to make a new desktop file.

TechTool is free. Their doc describes your problem and says that under
some circumstances the existing file can be corrupted in such a way that
the rebuilt file inherits the same corruption. I've use TT for the heck
of it, but not to solve your problem.

I think I downloaded TechTool from CIS.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 04:30:25 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Li-Hsiang Tu)
Subject: Offline NNTP newsreader (Q)

Is there anything similar to MacSlurp that downloads news from NNTP server?
 MacSlurp stops working for me, and I don't think our site use UUTP.

Thanks

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 5 Dec 93 20:53:38 CST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: OptiMem

   Does anyone use the new Optimem product? Does it work? How well? Is
   it worth getting? Anyone with usage to report, I would love to hear
   from, and I think lotsa folks on infomac would also like to hear.
   From the advertising, I can't tell if this is a great product or
   pure snake oil! It is cheap, so if it works like it says, it would
   be great.

A friend of mine did a review of it for our school's computing
journal.  I also looked at the package briefly, but have not used it.
The way it works (I think) is by reducing the partitions statically
allocated to eacg application open, and keeping a pool of memory to
allocate to those which need it.  My impression of it is that it will
help if you have about 8MB of memory already and like to keep lots of
applications (which would normally take more than 8MB) open at once --
a word processor, spreadsheet, mailer, graphics program and terminal
emulator, for example.  However, if you've got 4 or 5 MB and just have
trouble opening 2 applications simultaneously, it might not help much.
I decided to buy a hard drive one step up from the one I had been
considering and use VM insted (at least until SIMM prices come down to
a sane level).  I think the bottom line is that your mileage may vary.

If any actual OptiMem users think I'm panning it unfairly, please tell
me so.


    Sendhil Revuluri ([e-mail])
    University of Chicago

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 04 Dec 93 19:51:01 CST
From: Andrew Vernon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Performa 450 quality (A)

On Thu, 02 Dec 93 10:58:23 CDT,
Paul Koch <[e-mail]> asked us:

>I have an opportunity to buy a 'refurbished' Performa 450 at a
>tempting price.  Before I bite, I would like to know:
>1.  How close is it, really, to the LC III?

Electronically, the machines are identical.  Anything the LC III can do
the P450 can handle as well.

>2.  Can I run System 7.1?

You'll get System 7.1P, a customized System 7 for the Performa line.
Most of the changes are purely cosmetic, but you'll like how 7.1P auto-hides
other applications when you switch between them.  If you know which enablers
you need, you can _try_ to install a standard System 7.1 for the LC III,
but why bother?  Everything should run under 7.1P as it does with the
standard system software.

>3.  How good is the 14-inch monitor which comes with it?

The Performa displays are the true dissapointments of the product line.
Neither the Performa Display or the Performa Plus Display have the clarity
and sharpness of the Macintosh 14" display or the vaunted AppleColor 13"
High-Resolution display.  Go to Sears and take a look at the Performas on
the floor to get an idea of how the screen looks.  If the price is _that_
good, you can always use the savings to by a better monitor.

    Andrew Vernon ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 16:33:50 -0500 (EST)
From: Ronald G Mackley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Play Authoring Software

    Is there any software available for macintosh soley fr the purpose
of authoring plays?  Such software exists for DOS, but is there
anything for us?

    Please respond via e-mail

    Thanks

        ---RGM
 ------
 Ron Mackley
 [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 16:33:50 -0500 (EST)
From: Ronald G Mackley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Play Authoring Software

    Is there any software available for macintosh soley fr the purpose
of authoring plays?  Such software exists for DOS, but is there
anything for us?

    Please respond via e-mail

    Thanks

        ---RGM
 ------
 Ron Mackley
 [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 17:00:57 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Marc Dionne)
Subject: Postscript viewer.

We plan to offer a service use a Color postscript printer.  Each user will
create a postscript file of is printout and will send it over network to an
dedicate station who will print and do comptabitity.  We wish be able to
verify if the printout is ok before print it.  Does somebody can tell me if
a product exist to View a postscript file in a screen.

Marc Dionne                                 Email: [e-mail]
Universit du Qubec  Trois-Rivires       Tlec: [phone]

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 17:00:57 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Marc Dionne)
Subject: Postscript viewer.

We plan to offer a service use a Color postscript printer.  Each user will
create a postscript file of is printout and will send it over network to an
dedicate station who will print and do comptabitity.  We wish be able to
verify if the printout is ok before print it.  Does somebody can tell me if
a product exist to View a postscript file in a screen.

Marc Dionne                                 Email: [e-mail]
Universit du Qubec  Trois-Rivires       Tlec: [phone]

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 16:31:14 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Matthew Ahrens)
Subject: Ram Disk on SE-30 with Sys 7.

the ram disk in the memmory control panel only works with macs that support
ram
+ disks in ROM, which would be i think naything since about november 1992 or
+ something like that. oops, fergot, the origion PB's (140,170) might also
+ support the ram disk (october 1991).

you could do a ram disk with one of those 3rd party options (ram+ or
something)
+ but they might not work with sys 7.

--
My opinions are mine only and tentative, pending further data
Matthew Ahrens                      [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 16:31:14 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Matthew Ahrens)
Subject: Ram Disk on SE-30 with Sys 7.

the ram disk in the memmory control panel only works with macs that support
ram
+ disks in ROM, which would be i think naything since about november 1992 or
+ something like that. oops, fergot, the origion PB's (140,170) might also
+ support the ram disk (october 1991).

you could do a ram disk with one of those 3rd party options (ram+ or
something)
+ but they might not work with sys 7.

--
My opinions are mine only and tentative, pending further data
Matthew Ahrens                      [e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 93 16:24:07 EST
From: Mark A. Saper <[e-mail]>
Subject: RS-422 serial vs LocalTalk

Could someone explain the difference between hooking a PostScript laser
printer
(HP 4ML) to my MAC's printer port via a direct DIN-8 to DIN-8 cable versus a
Phonenet connection (2 phonenet connectors and telephone cable in between).
HP
technical support says that the DIN-8 to DIN-8 connection is only reliable to
about 20 feet and is in general slower than the localtalk/phonenet
connection.
Is this true?  Can the Mac port driver tell the difference?

By the way I am not daisychaining anything else on Localtalk connection.

Thanks, Mark Saper

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Date: Fri Dec 3, 1993 09:48
From: [e-mail]
Subject: SndVolume XFCN 1.0

Attached you will find version 1.0 of our SndVolume XFCN for
HyperCard.  This external allows you to set and retrieve the
sound volume of the Macintosh.

Thank you,
Software Perspectives

[Archived as /info-mac/card/snd-volume-10.hqx; 44K]

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Date: Sun Dec  5 21:17:32 1993
From: [e-mail] (David Wechsler)
Subject: SoundEditPro

Hodwy

Since I updated to V7.1 the SoundEdit Pro V1.05 run in an error during
startup.Under V7.0 all works fine.

My configuration: Centris650,16 ram,CD-ROM.

I try with no extension(shift-restart),32 bit off,no cache - all the same
errors.

Have someone  the same experience?


                -David
[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 07:18 EST
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: spin cd rom drive

I noticed in Macweek that a company called Spin Peripherals (division of
Spirit Tecnologies, Newton Upper Falls, MA) is offering a "$299 double
speed MultiSession Photo-CD compatible CD-ROM drive. State of the art
performance lets you blaze throught your favorite Quicktime movies at
300kb/sec
Includes all necessary cabling and free Voyager CD-ROM disc."

Has anyone had experience with this company, this drive etc? I note that
on the same page, they are offering a drive with an NEC mechanism (2x) at
$449.

Jim Clark

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 11:50:48 -0600 (CST)
From: [e-mail] (Wyatt Johnson)
Subject: statics shell

For our last csc assignment, we got into groups and had to write
a program that plays nim against you.  I decided to do the user
interface using Borland's BGI.  I finished last night (took me from about
6:00 pm to 2:00 am).  Anyway, I can use a lot of that code (with some
modifications) in the statics shell.

Doing this also gave me some ideas on improving the mouse support, plans
for people that don't have color monitors (although VGA is required),
allowing for "hot" keys for people that don't have/use mouse, button
highlighting, and a few other things that I can plan in advance for
when I write the shell.

Later
Wyatt

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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 93 10:47:06 EST
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sys 7.1 Boot Disk

On Tue, 30 Nov 93, Robert Shaw asked

> Is there a MacTools 2.0 Emergency Disk with minSys7.1?

Sure, Robert. But you have to make your own. Hie thee to the smex-aim
archives and get UTIL/MIN-SYSTEM-INSTALLER-101.HQX, 84K. It makes a
stripped system (715K) system 7.1 that leaves lots of room for enablers
and an app.

Once you get a stripped disk that boots properly with a finder on it,
replace the finder with the app you want. Then use MacTools DiskEdit
to examine the boot blocks and change Finder = Finder to Finder = app
name and StartupApp = app.

BTW, folk. MacTools 3 doesn't include DiskEdit. Keep your copy from
version 2. Heck, I even keep FileEdit from version 1.

There are other options. LaCie's SilverLining boot disk has a cute
little (2K) "finder." All it does is let you transfer to whatever apps
are on the disk. Quitting an app returns you to the finderlet, from
which you can launch another app, restart, or shut down.

Or you can rename your app Finder and diddle its type/creator. Doesn't
work in some cases, but it's fairly reliable.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 93 00:41:35 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: System 7 sound --> mod format

What kind of program do I need in order to convert a System 7 sound file to
.mod file format so that I can use Sound Tracker to play sound in the
background. Or is there ant sound utility which I can use to convert system 7
sound file to anything that I can play in the background. Thanks in advance!

JAKE

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 14:26:15 -0500 (EST)
From: Sridar Narayanan <[e-mail]>
Subject: TCP/IP networking problems with LC520?

Hello,

The lab next door just got an LC520 which they wish to connect to a
TCP/IP network and to a DECnet VAX.  They have an Asante ethernet
card, MacTCP and an IP address.  They seem to have MacTCP correctly
configured, but are not recognized on the net. That is to say, they
cannot ping out or be pinged, nor do Fetch or Xferit work.  A Quadra
in another lab works fine.  They've tried all the usual things,
(MacTCP 2.0.2, 2.0.4, 1.1.1), AppleTalk on/off, reinstalling with the
latest Network Installer Disk, reseating the Ethernet card, reinstalling
the Asante drivers, etc.  Calls to Apple and Asante tech support were
fruitless.

The Question:  I seem to recall reading in Info-mac that there are
networking problems specific to the LC520.  Is this the case?  If
so, what's the fix?  E-mail replies are preferred.

Thanks in advance,

Sridar
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 01:24:32 +0200 (EET)
From: Matti Haveri <[e-mail]>
Subject: Text editor for large files (S)

I asked what is the best application to view and edit large text-files
_without huge amounts of memory_ and with the option to automatically
wrap lines longer than the screen _without adding LF/CR_ (auto-wrap)?
Search and replace would be nice too.

**TeachText** and **TexEdit** have auto-wrap but they can open only
<30K files. **SaintEdit** has auto-wrap but it needs much application
memory when opening big files. **Edit II** is also memory-hungry with
large files. It has auto-wrap-option but there it means that it just
inserts CR's at the right margin automatically.

It turns out that **BBEdit** is also memory-dependent so it can't open
huge files with little available memory. Even though its application
memory is only 300K it uses System memory when dealing with large
files. BBEdit 2.2.2's manual says:

 > File size limited only by available memory. BBEdit's default
 > partition size is 512K of RAM. This can be set as low as 300K, to
 > make BBEdit the ideal constantly-resident editor for small to
 > moderate tasks, or turned up as high as necessary to edit many large
 > files or perform large-scale search-and-replace operations. If youUre
 > running under System 7.0, BBEdit automatically _takes advantage of_
 > _available system memory_, so that you donUt have to adjust its
 > partition size to edit large files.

So my 1.3M test file (which, by the way, was "interest-groups") was
about the largest file BBEdit could open with 2500K of free memory.

**Quick View** could open the 1.3M test-file _very fast_ and with just
20K of free memory it uses by itself. However, it crashed the system
if Cancel-button was pressed in open file dialog box. Without those
bad crashes (7.0.1, shift-boot) this small DA would be nice although
it lacks auto-wrap (in fact it lacks everything except the ability to
view text - copying and pasting are missing too).

**McSink** also takes advantage of available system memory so it
couldn't open the 1.3M file when there wasn't enough memory and it
lacks auto-wrap too. McSink's commercial version **Vantage**
(Signature Software for Preferred Publishers) has automatic word wrap
but I don't know if it is still sold as McSink's date is as old as
1/25/90. And I'm not sure if its auto-wrap is similar to Edit II.

I tried **Alpha 5.63** and it, too, used System memory and inserted CR's
when converting from paragraph format.

 > ~John W. LeBlanc:~ I have sucessfully used McSink (shareware) for this
 > it features "Wrap to length" and "Wrap to Window", and can "Form
 > Paragraphs" from CR laden text. The commercial version is Vantage,
 > which offers automatic word wrap and filters for word procesing
 > documents.
 >
 > ~Dr Alun J. Carr:~ ...the one I tend to use most is Alpha (mostly
 > because it has superb facilities for LaTeX users).
 >
 > ~Larry K. Smith:~ You want Alpha, a great shareware text editor.

~Dieter Shirley~ keeps "Mac Text Editor Christmas Wish List" in
comp.sys.mac.programming and comp.sys.mac.apps:

 >It seems that many Mac users, particularily programmers, have some
 >really good ideas about what an ideal text editor would do. It also
 >seems that several text editors come close but not close enough.
 >
 >Let's make the Mac Text Editor Christmas Wish List. I'm willing to
 >compile the thing, assuming it doesn't take *too* much of my time.
 >And just before Christmas, I'll post the whole list. Bare Bones
 >software, creators of BBEdit, have expressed an interest in seeing
 >this list, and Pete Keleher, author of Alpha, also appears to be
 >following this thread.
 >
 >So, mail me (**[e-mail]**) with one of four subject lines.
 >(This isn't a mailer daemon, so you do have some flexiblity, it's
 >just so I can file the replies easily.)
 >
 >TE Ideas - Fill the body with things you'd like to see in your ideal
 >text editor. I'll also be following c.s.m.programming. If possible,
 >try to help with nifty interface ideas. It would nice to have a good
 >interface to these powerful features (I know that I always have to
 >keep a vi reference close by... you shouldn't need that for a Mac
 >application.))
 >
 >TE Request - To be sent the current incarnation of the TE X-mas wish.
 >I'll also try to post the list at regular intervals to both
 >c.s.m.programming and c.s.m.apps.
 >
 >TE Support - Fill the body with the items that you *like* that are
 >currently on the list and why. (Please don't gripe about features
 >unless you find them really offensive. eg. Don't send a message
 >saying that you think vi is stupid, or that no Mac text editor should
 >be under control of the keyboard. Any decent Mac developer knows not
 >to abandon the mouse interface, but may not realize how many users
 >would like to circumvent it.) I hope the final list to contain
 >reasons for certain features as well as what those features are.
 >Points will be awarded based on literary merit and style. :-)
 >
 >TE Errors - Errors that I've made, particulaily when referring to
 >what BBEdit, Alpha and MPW can and can't do. In particular, I invite
 >the developers to mail/post with info on there own product.

Thanks for the replies. It seems that at the moment there isn't such
shareware text-editor available.

Matti Haveri <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 04 Dec 93 08:43:30 EST
From: Pete Tamas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Toolbook

Anyone familier with some software called Toolbook? I believe it is for
creating interactive multimedia. Thanks, Pete Tamas
[e-mail] or TempleVM.bitnet

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 11:44:21 -0600
From: "Hemachandran P. R." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Typing tutor

Hi,
I am not sure whether I am writing to the right people, if not please pardon
me.
I am looking for a Typing Tutor program. Wonder it is available as a share
ware.
Thanks,
-Heman

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 02:56:50 GMT
From: Sven Guckes <[e-mail]>
Subject: UMICH:/mac/documentation/INITInfo4.3.1Word.sit

UMICH:/mac/documentation/INITInfo4.3.1Word.sit

Yet another documentation from hell - Word formatted!
While the info is quite comprehensive I had to wonder about two things:

1)  No pictures.
    While there are obviously pictures in this document, I can only see
    gray boxes.  :-(

2)  The index says something about 83 pages.
    However, there seem to be only 73 pages.  :-(

Before you ask - it's "Word 5.1a".

Sven :)  [Why do they have to use Word, anyway??]
--
Useful sigs, part 1:
If you followup to this post then please send me a copy.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 02:26:21 GMT
From: Sven Guckes <[e-mail]>
Subject: UMICH:/mac/graphics/gif

What about "UMICH:/mac/graphics/gif" ?
Is there really only one file?
Where are those Gifs?

Sven :)  [Pointer to a FAQ suffices!]

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 03:35:42 GMT
From: Sven Guckes <[e-mail]>
Subject: UMICH:/mac/misc/documentation/mactcppatch.cpt.hqx

UMICH:/mac/misc/documentation/mactcppatch.cpt.hqx

Alright, an updater to MacTCP 1.1.1.
But it's just the updater application!

No docs included with the (CompactPro) archive, nor with the application.
OK, there is some text in the hqx file; but that one doesn't explain
what is fixed, nor what the result will be.

Dear MacApplicationUpdaters,
please, please, please - include some information!!!
Thank you!

Sven :)  [I feel much better now!]

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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 93 20:01:25 CST
From: Andrew Vernon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Upgrading a LC to use a SuperDrive

[e-mail] asked:

>I have an old LC, I also have an old SE that I don't use. The SE has a
>high density drive, while the LC has an 800K drive. I would like to
transplant
>the drive from the SE to the LC. Will this work? Do I need a ROM upgrade?
>Is such a thing available???

Whoa! The LC came with a SuperDrive originally.  If your LC can't read high-
density diskettes, the drive needs servicing.  In fact, the most common
problem I've found with the SuperDrive is that it will get mucked up to the
point where it can't read high-density Mac or MS-DOS disks (no MFM-standard
disks will work).  This has been corrected in the new manual-inject
SuperDrive,
which has a door covering the drive opening.  The SuperDrive has always been
prone to eating dust-bunnies through its opening because the exhaust fan
draws dirt and grunge into the Mac.  We had a SuperDrive in a IIcx die
completely at the hands of a two-pack-a-day smoker in a dirty room.

 ---------
    Andrew Vernon ([e-mail])

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 10:18:41 MST
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan Lundell)
Subject: Using BOTH ethernet and AppleTalk

Al Best writes:

>I just bought an ethernet board to hook into
>our Vax mainframe - TCP/IP, FTP and all that.

>In particular, I use AppleTalk to print stuff
>out on my own LaserWriter and to share a disk

I'm using AppleTalk over LocalTalk to talk to my LW IINT and a Duo.
I also use Ethernet to run TCP/IP to talk to a local SPARCstation.

This should work FINE for you. For your network connection, select
LocalTalk, not EtherTalk.

What's confusing is that you now have two physical media (LocalTalk and
Ethernet). You can run AppleTalk protocol on either (or both with Apple's
router). You can run IP protocol (used by TCP/IP) on either medium as well,
but typically don't need to run it on LocalTalk.

MacTCP can be set to use the Ethernet connection (you are using MacTCP?)
while AppleTalk should remain on LocalTalk. At least it sounds like that's
what you want.

If you really want to run AppleTalk on both media, my dealer says Apple's
router will do the trick. I was asking in anticipation of adding a printer
that had an Ethernet connection.

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Date: 3 Dec 1993 11:50:49 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Saul Tannenbaum)
Subject: Warning: Apple Software Dispatch (extension problem)

    [ found on another newsgroup, but I removed "Trojan Horse"
      from the Subject-header.  otherwise the article is original.
      While I do not myself know anything about the problem nor
      the symptoms (and extension problems are nothing if not
      'a normal experience' for many of us, there are some aspects
      of this report which most (potential) users might want to
      be aware of BEFORE first using this...
                            ---Werner ]


Warning - Apple Software Dispatch is a Trojan Horse

Apple Software Dispatch is Apple's new way to buy application software.
They send you a CD (mine came unsolicited in the mail). You run an application
on the CD, register your CD by a code that comes with the package, and
then you can call an 800 number to purchase applications on the CD.
You give them a credit card number - they give you some code number that
unlocks/decrypts the application.

While the documentation nowhere says so, THE SOFTWARE DISPATCH APPLICATION
INSTALLS AN EXTENSION IN YOUR SYSTEM. On my system, this extension
clearly conflicted with something, rendering my disks (hard, floppy _and_
CD-ROM) unmountable. Removing the extension fixed the problem. Booting
with Software Dispatch as the only extension also worked, so Software
Dispatch is not inherently buggy - it just suffers from classic Mac
extension conflict problems. However, since this extension is not
mentioned in the documentation, there are people who are in for a rude shock.
And, since the symptoms for this problem are just a dialog saying
"This disk is unreadable on this Macintosh. Would you like to initialize
it?", there are people who are going to waste endless amounts of time,
restoring and rebuilding their disks needlessly. After they do that,
if they still don't notice the Software Dispatch extension, they still
won't have fixed the problem.

I called the Apple Software Dispatch 800 number to report this problem.
After convincing them that I was calling for technical support for
Software Dispatch itself, not an application I purchased through Software
Dispatch, I ended up playing 3 days of phone tag with a support person.
The end result: "We'll report this to a technician. I can't say when they
will get back to you - but it's apt to be a few weeks."

My flames:

    * You don't install software on someone's machine without informing
      them in documentation and during the installation process.
      I _assume_ that the Software Dispatch extension is benign.
      I don't _know_ that it is. Indeed, I had to stumble across
      its very existence. It's stuff like this that starts ugly
      rumors and very, very bad PR.
    * If you are in the software distribution and installation business,
      you do tech support better than Apple Software Dispatch, especially
      given the point above.
    * You take reports of "this makes my machine unusable" a little
      more seriously, especially when you're launching a new means
      of software distribution. Doing otherwise only ends up shooting
      yourself in the foot.

I can't believe that I'm the only person to whom this has happened. While
I run a fairly complex Mac, I am relatively conservative about system
extensions - with one or two exceptions, the extensions I have aren't
particularly funky, they're from Apple or 3rd party vendors. I expect that
Apple will be suffering from real grief about this, and, regrettably, they
deserve every little bit of it.

    - Saul, who is clearly speaking _only_ for himself

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 23:52:18 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Watermarks

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> I know that Word for Windoze allows you to add a watermark. How about Word
for
> Mac?

Working Watermarker from Working Software enables you to have watermarks
in all applications, although it doesn't have an unlimited list of
them - just the standard things I guess. I'll have to look more closely.

cheers ... -Adam

Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
Author of The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh -- [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 08:43:36 MST
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan Lundell)
Subject: Word books

> Steve Greenfield asks:
> Are there any good books on how to use Word?

When I first bought Word, I bought a copy of "Working With Word",
Kinata & McComb, Microsoft Press. The 2nd edition covers Word 4;
I haven't looked to see a later version. I've looked at a few, and
this is IMO the best--IF you want a complete reference rather than
an intro.

> I am going to buy Word 5.1 (isn't this the latest release?) for myself
> for Christmas.  It will cost $81.  Does anyone know if I should wait for
> a newer release to come out soon?  I'd hate to spend the $81 and find out
> a new release is coming out within a couple of months!

Word 4 was the first reliable version; don't feel compelled to upgrade
(though I did and don't regret it). The new version is due shortly; for
the first time it shares most of its source with the Windows version 6.0,
which has had a lot of press coverage recently. Reports are that 6.0 is
VERY buggy. My advice would be to buy 5.1, wait for 6.0 to come out and
see how it works, and probably wait for 6.1.

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